When was the book thirteen reasons why published
The fate of the tapes. Book : Clay mails the tapes off to reason No. Show : Clay, changed to reason No. Courtney Crimson. They give each other back massages to get the Peeping Tom excited, then drama ensues at a party when Courtney spreads rumors about Hannah for no good reason. Tyler, the stalker, takes pictures of them kissing that get sent around the school. Book : A normal guy who everybody likes.
Possibly the biggest change of all: Clay and Hannah. Book : Clay had always pined after Hannah, but never acted on it. Show : Clay pines after Hannah, but — despite what they may say — the two are definitely friends. They work together year-round at the movie theater and talk all the time. They even have nicknames for each other, share a slow dance, and watch an eclipse together on a roof before making out at the party.
Hannah and Clay after the party. AND what's Hannah's interpretation? You, ex-friend, caused my suicide cause you didn't want to be friends for life. Dropping Hannah like a hot tamale was obviously the right choice. B Can you even begin to imagine learning that happened to you while your so-called friend was hanging out in the closet of the same room?
And what was Hannah doing? Having a tipsy mental breakdown because A the boy she liked her tried to kiss her and B when she said no, he stopped.
Literally all Hannah had to do was step out of the closet and he'd be scared off. But noooooo, Hannah decides to make the suicide tapes LONG after all the evidence has been washed away to let everyone know that she's the victim. That SHE deserves the pity and sympathy. This is the sort of revenge Hannah decides to extract on these teens. It's unforgivable. I can't believe I wasted my time with this. This is my interpretation of this novel. Is it the right one?
Maybe and maybe not. If this book is perfect in your eyes, if it really saved you, I am not discounting that experience. This book has a LOT of potential to bring about difficult discussions but I feel that the way it is written is problematic to say the least. But again, this is one take on the novel. Audiobook Comments The one thing I couldn't fault this book on was the choice of narrators. Joel Johnstone and Debra Wiseman were absolutely perfect throughout this book.
The way they played off of each other, the way they conveyed emotions - amazing through and through. It is told from the perspective of Clay, but is mostly about the life of Hannah - a girl who recently killed herself. After her death, Clay receives a set of cassette tapes on which Hannah explains the thirteen reasons why she decided to kill herself.
And he is one of them. It is extremely compelling - unputdownable almost - but a problem many readers have is that the book relies on your sympathy for Hannah to effectively relay its message, and yet Hannah comes off as bratty, selfish and ofttimes over-sensitive.
Many of her "reasons" are things that everyone has experienced at some point and people generally file those under "bad days" and definitely don't kill themselves because of it.
But actually, I completely understood and sympathized with Hannah. As a suicide survivor, I even related to her at times. And, though I don't attempt to speak for everyone, I feel in a position to attest that there can be something bratty and selfish about suicide. I think this book captured a certain feeling very well and I disagree with those who thought Hannah wasn't realistically suicidal. It's true that nobody kills themselves because they get stood up, and nobody kills themselves because some douche groped their ass, and nobody kills themselves because of a mean rumour People like to look for clear-cut reasons that make sense.
They want Hannah to give a good reason why she killed herself. But, in reality, it so rarely is one big reason you can point to. Most of the time, the little things all build up, day after day, one small thing after another, until the little reasons all blend into a single feeling of hopelessness.
That is what this book is about. And it's also about taking responsibility for your actions and understanding how your small selfish acts can affect someone else.
I did not have an issue believing in or finding sympathy for Hannah. My only real issue with this book was Clay, the revelation about him, and the way he viewed the truth about Hannah.
Clay changes his mind about Hannah based on what he hears and decides she did not deserve to be slut-shamed because the rumours weren't true. But - would she have deserved the treatment any more if she had done what the rumours said? And I wish the book had taken the opportunity to address that.
But otherwise, this is a creative pageturner, even if it seems a bit strange that cassette tapes were being used in I liked it a lot and it really made me think. View all 98 comments. And I honestly don't know what all the rave is about. I heard so many great things about this novel, that's why I read it.
While this was a good book, well written and all…the plot was just not good enough—no, the reasons leading to Hannah Baker killing herself were not believable enough for me. I mean sure, they did some horrible things to her in high school, that doesn't mean you should just go off and commit suicide.
As far as I'm concerned, those kinds of situations happen to everyone. And I don't believe for one second that no one noticed that she wanted to commit suicide. What about her haircut? Didn't the author mention that the teacher passed out a flyer called "The Warning Signs of a Suicidal Individual?
What about "Giving away possessions? Didn't Hannah leave an anonymous note telling the teacher that? After she told Mr. And he didn't stop her? Come on, they couldn't have been that dumb! Hannah, above all, just sounded whiny. And I just couldn't sympathize with her character. And committing suicide and then blaming people for it is just a stupid excuse for killing herself. She was the one that decided to kill herself, not them—not anyone.
She just needed someone to blame. And poor Clay! If Clay wasn't one of the reasons Hannah killed herself, then why put him through the agony? Why give him the tapes? She could've just written him a letter. And Tony! Hannah put even the ones that had nothing to do with her in pain. For example: what did Tony do to her?
Because I know he was hurting, too. He felt helpless because he couldn't have saved her. One second I'm reading in Clay's point of view, the next Hannah's. Also, I think suicide is a very serious issue so I didn't really buy Jay Asher's portrayal of Hannah's feelings.
If someone wanted to commit suicide, their emotion had to be deeper, stronger than just hatred and petty resentment for having a bad reputation in High School. Therefore, I thought Hannah's emotions weren't very serious, even childish and overly dramatic at times. And after finishing the books I was like, "seriously?! That's why she killed herself?! This was like telling them, "what the heck, end your life if you're so miserable.
Starring Selena Gomez. Also, if you want to know more about Hannah's reasons, read message 6. I figured this deserved a real review. I'm a bipolar chick. I'm a girl who has struggled with suicidal thoughts since she was nine years old at the very latest. And I just do not buy 13RW's representation of a suicidal girl. The very premise of the book is flawed to me; you don't kill yourself for REASONS, you kill yourself because there is a bug in your brain gnawing at you and sucking out any valuable thought you've ever had, and I never saw that kind of bug in Hannah.
I saw a girl who killed h I figured this deserved a real review. I saw a girl who killed herself because boys were mean to her, and I think that if you reversed the sexes and made it a boy who killed himself for Hannah's reasons, no one would have bought it. It's a symptom of a larger epidemic you see all the times in discussions of girls with mental illness.
Boys are legitimately fucked up and have genuine struggles with mental health, but girls are hysterical. Hannah's depression is entirely circumstantial, as is her suicide, and I just do not buy it. Not to mention I think it's a complete cop-out to have Clay be the only guy on the list who didn't fuck her up. It was compelling, I'll give it that.
I read it in one night about five years ago. Apr 06, Emma Giordano rated it it was amazing Shelves: audiobooks. I had heard very mixed things for some time and it seemed a lot of readers were very divided on this book, but I personally really loved it. Maybe the author did not go about things in the best way in my personal opinion but I do think the message that your actions influence others in ways you may not realize came across well.
The path to get there was not perfect, but the execution was. I also despise the reviews on here saying that "Hannah had no excuse to kill herself, she was not depressed enough and it wasn't believable for her to commit suicide because of these reasons. Work on your stigma regarding people with mental illness.
I am SO SO SORRY that you feel someone who is a victim of bullying, sexual harassment,t sexual assault, who reaches out for help and is told to "move on" is not a "good enough excuse to kill themselves" but I am NOT HERE for delegitimizing one's personal suffering because it wasn't something you have experienced. Depression manifests in a multitude of ways.
People commit suicide for a variety of reasons. I've been diagnosed with clinical depressed and spent most of my adolescence in a cycle of self harm and suicidal ideation. Can I related to Hannah Baker? No, I cannot. Our stories are very different. But that does not mean it is impossible for her experience to exist, or that others will be unable to relate to what this poor girl went through. If you view life through a singular lens, I promise, you will continually be let down by those who's lives do not perfectly mirror your own.
I also want to note that I DO see why this book has upset so many people. I really do see the perspective of others who disagree with this book and don't feel it achieved what it was trying to, I just personally feel differently. It was a great experience and I'm glad I read it! View all 19 comments. Jan 30, C. I still hate it. My review is getting a lot of traffic atm so I'm just going to do a little update and leave you some links to better reviews that tell how problematic the story is: Tweet thread on the problematic show.
Article on why it's dangerous. Goodreads review on why it's seriously bad. I'm sorry my review is more distraught and emotional than analytical and full of logical reasoning. I don't care if you like this book, but be respectful of people who say it's triggering, problematic, and sends a dangerous message about romanticising suicide and condoning revenge suicide.
I have also had to talk someone down from killing themselves and let me tell you: It was the worst moment of my life. I still nearly cry when I think about it. Because if they'd gone ahead to kill themselves, would I be to blame? Any book that says that yes I would be to blame like this book is saying is poisonous. Please don't read it if you've had suicidal thoughts or know people who've committed suicide.
You won't be encouraged. You'll be triggered. But this one? I hated it. I hated the message the author was sending. I think it was wrong and cruel. Obviously, this is just my opinion! But I will enver recommend this book. To a certain extent, that can be true. She was just as guilty, and more so, then any of the kids that teased her, because she then ruined and destroyed 13 lives. I hate that.
I hate the message this book sends. I hate how Clay even GOT the tapes. It was totally against the rules she set up. I was so angry and so distressed when I finished this book, it almost turned me off reading.
And this made me hate them oh-so-much. This book is in no way okay. View all 72 comments. Co-Worker: "My kid just read this book and loved it. You are a reader, right? If you haven't read it, you should read it. It's about suicide. Hold on lemme check. So if you are someone who loved this book and loved Hannah, you should probably pass on my review because it might piss you off. Hannah's ridiculous 13 tape manifesto is all about laying people out for not seeing or simply failing to care how their actions affected Hannah.
She plainly says that she asked Courtney over to her home--not to befriend her--but to help her catch Tyler peeping in her window with his camera.
Also, later she describes how she engages a random girl with whom she's never spoken to before in conversation in order to look beyond the girl's shoulder and catch Zach stealing notes out of her "Encouragement bag. How do you think Courtney felt being asked over to your house simply to playact for a peeping Tom?
On and on Hannah rants at everyone about how dare they do this and how dare they do that to her - but seriously - watching her hypocritically commit similar actions of insensitivity and constantly put herself in asinine situations completely undermined any sympathy I had for her. Do I think it's fucked up that Tyler peeped into her window a situation that felt totally contrived? Is it fucked up she witnessed a rape and felt guilt for not acting to stop it? Same with the stop sign situation.
But by the time most of those things happen, she has already dug her own grave in her mind. AND she did nothing to try and solve her own problems. Being a female teenager especially sucks.
But what Hannah failed to realize is that almost every other character in her story was just trying to do the same thing as her: get by and get through. I'm all for being mindful of your words and trying to be aware of how your actions affect others; however, you can only do your best--but to think constantly about how your every word and action might affect someone else can result in complete paralyzation.
I'm not anti-suicide and I'm not railing against Hannah for choosing that course. I'm just not down with the 13 tapes vilifying other people for not thinking about how every move they made affected Hannah.
You can't control what other people do and how they act, but you can control how you respond. View all 83 comments. Shelves: absolutely-must-read , contemporaryfiction , , would-rec , young-adult , suicide.
Jay Asher just completely blew me away. View all 36 comments. I absolutely loved this book. What an eye opener. In Thirteen Reasons Why we listen to audio tapes that was sent to 13 people by Hannah who committed suicide, to explain her reasons why.
First I want to mention that to all the reviewers who say that her reasons weren't "good enough" for her to kill herself, you're wrong. Everyone doesn't cope with situations the same way, and problems that may seem minimalistic to you, can send the next person into depression. We all have our own ways of working I absolutely loved this book. We all have our own ways of working through our issues, and some have a much harder time than others.
These were her reasons to commit suicide, which were enough for her, who are we to judge? Personally I thought it was amazingly done and very realistic. There weren't any embellishments or glorifications, it was true portrayal of teen suicide. We go through the story with Clay while he is listening to Hannah's tapes.
I really though this was a great way to pace the story and build up the suspense. And every single page is full of suspense. I really could have stayed up all night reading it. The story contains a lot of emotions; Intense and raw emotions. We go through them with Hannah as well as Clay, simultaneously. Hearing her tapes makes us realize that our actions, however small, can have a whirlwind of an effect on others.
Yes, sending those tapes may have been a little mean. But obviously there was a lot going on with Hannah and she needed to get this out. I don't condone her for it, but I can understand why she thought it necessary.
It's not an easy subject to talk about, and suicide is not something to take lightly. Asher did an amazing job of taking a sensitive subject and writing a very touching, mesmerizing novel.
View all 25 comments. Things that happened to make Hannah Baker kill herself: 1. Someone made up a rumour that she let a boy put his hands under her shirt in a park. Someone was taking pictures of her through her bedroom window and she reacted by posing with a friend as though they were giving each other sensual massages Someone asked her to drive them to and from a party.
Someone stole the compliments out of her comp Things that happened to make Hannah Baker kill herself: 1. Someone stole the compliments out of her compliment box. All these and other teenage angst happen which Hannah deems unforgivable. And then she witnesses a rape that she could easily have stopped but didn't. And suddenly she's like "oh God the room is spinning my emotions I'm like so drunk and can't see through my tears So basically when she allows a classmate to be raped in front of her it's fine because, like, her head wasn't in the right place or something, but when other people don't acknowledge her new haircut it's because they are purposely attacking her and they deserve to be punished.
This book makes a mockery of suicide. We don't ever get a sense that Hannah is depressed. It's more like she's doing it as some messed up experiment.
I found her to be way too amused by her own vicious stunt to feel even a shred of empathy for her. It's a book about a pathetic, selfish witch with a severe lack of moral fibre who kills herself and then sends out sick and twisted recordings to thirteen people telling them it was their fault so that what?
They can feel guilty for the rest of their lives because they weren't the nicest person ever to Hannah one time back when they were a teenager? I would argue it is much more severe then any bullying Hannah was on the receiving end of. Ultimately, Thirteen Reasons Why waters down suicide to make it look like an awesome revenge tactic rather than an incredibly serious and sensitive issue that many teens are dealing with every day.
It is not a game! Nobody makes a TV show about you. Your classmates will only think of you ten years later when their memory is triggered and they go "ah, yes, a girl at my school killed herself once Pass the salt please. View all 78 comments. When you were writing Thirteen Reasons Why , did you want the book to have a particular message to teens? The main thing I wanted to say, which is more of a reminder, is that we do affect each other.
How do you think one ending versus another affects the message of the novel? They may have been following my message from the beginning, but when they finished that last chapter they would have let out a sigh of relief that everything could potentially be righted. But readers are shown that people can change for the better, even after a tragedy, and that was very important to me. What do you hope or think Thirteen Reasons Why fans will think of this ending?
How does it feel to be coming up on the 10 th anniversary of the book? I could not have imagined the book would be where it is ten years later. I thought a few people would really love it, but I just had no idea it would resonate with such a large audience.
How do you feel about the overwhelmingly positive teen response to the book over the last ten years? I have two opposing feelings about that. Part of that response, I recognize, comes from teens thankful that my book addresses issues that our society has a hard time discussing. So the necessity of books like this means the positive response will always come with a twinge of sadness. When the positive remark is about the writing or storytelling alone, that I can find pure joy in!
You can't rewind the past. The only way to learn the secret. He becomes a firsthand witness to Hannah's pain, and as he follows Hannah's recorded words throughout his town, what he discovers changes his life forever.
I just finished reading it and I have to say that I just got it yesterday and I couldnt put it down. I was looking for a good book to read and instead I got an outstanding book! So thanks you Jay Asher!
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